Westside over the Years: 1992–2005
By Dave Tate
The Question
This article began as a question sent to the Q&A that I answered…
“Dave I hear a lot about the old style of Westside training. Can you explain
what differences there are compared to today’s style of Westside?”
When I first read this, I had other things on my mind. This was the morning
before I was scheduled to have my wisdom teeth removed, and I had about 30
minutes before I had to leave. So I rambled off a short answer and a list of 41
different things.
Now I’m back from surgery, full of Oxycodone and delirious from being “put
under” for over one hour. So with an ice pack around my head and looped out of
my mind, I’ll finish this question in the form of an article. I feel sorry for
my editor right now. This should be very interesting to write and more so to
read later. There’s no way to bullshit when you’re this loopy so this will be as
truthful as it gets.
I can’t tell you what’s going on at Westside today. There are only a very
small handful of people who can do that, and those people train at Westside
Barbell. Anyone else is just bullshitting you and telling you what they believe
is being done based on some articles or phone conversations. Trust me—these
people have no freaking clue. The only way to know what’s being done inside
those four walls is to be there. With this in mind, Mike Brown, who’s on our Q&A
team, still trains there. He’s your best source of information if you want to
know what’s going on there now. Mike also keeps his training log on the
site
so you can see what he’s doing with his own training.
What I can tell you is what I saw happen during the time I was there from
1992 to 2005. To list every change I remember in detail would take a book.
However, I can list a bunch of stuff as I remember it, let it go as is, and see
what happens.
Note: All of the
Westside DVDs were filmed during the time period that I
trained there. Many of the items on this list are in those DVDs. I’ll talk more
about the value of them at the end of this article because you can learn a lot
from them.
The List
In short and in no specific order, here are some of the changes that I’ve
seen:
- Bands have been added.
- Chains have been added.
- Weight releasers were added.
- Board presses were added.
- Floor presses were added.
- DE cycles went from five weeks to three weeks.
- ME work cycled from three weeks to one week.
- An assload of new special exercises were added.
- The reverse hyper and glute ham raise became huge (from one day per week
to 5–6 per week in some cases).
- GPP was added.
- Trap bars, dips, and overhead work were canned.
- Kettlebells were added.
- Stability balls were added.
- Mantarays came and went.
- Cambered bars were added.
- DE work with safety bars was added.
- Lactic acid tolerance training was added.
- The lightened method was added.
- We moved gyms three times.
- The belt squat became a machine instead of a huge box with a hole in it.
- The sled mill was added.
- Powerlifting gear improved.
- I remember the GREAT day when the monolift was added—no more taking the
weight out of the racks at Louie’s height.
- Circa maximal phases were added.
- Recovery became more important.
- Restoration sessions were added.
- Extra workouts were added for weak points.
- We became better at figuring out how to overcome sticking points.
- The 45-degree back raise was added.
- The beck attack was added.
- Members came and members went.
- Suspended ME work was added (concentric only).
- Teaching became a big part of the process. At one time, we had four guys
writing articles and three doing seminars.
- Single leg work came and went.
- Standing ab work became vital.
- Louie came out of retirement.
- The record board began to change at every meet
- The club “top” list got very freaky and keeps growing today.
- We tore through 4–5 stereos.
- Fat bars were added.
- Percents dropped.
- Grip work became more important.
- Timed work was added for recovery.
- Max effort waves that built on each other were added.
- We were tough on which max effort movements tested strength and which
ones built strength.
- Weak point analysis was based on technical performance more so than
structure.
- Heavy ankle weights were added for GPP work.
- Weight vests were added for GPP work and sled dragging.
- Wheelbarrow work was added for GPP work.
- Speed training rest periods were slightly increased as band tension got
heavier.
- Band tension was taken to extremes and then lowered somewhat to fit each
lifter.
- Lat work for many of us dropped in daily volume but was now done four
days per week. For me, I had two row days and two pull-down days.
- Speed pulls were added after speed squats.
- Speed squat cycles changed and advanced with each meet based on the
results that the last group had.
- Technique remained the most important variable.
- The new guys never made the same mistakes that we did, but they made
their own. This is the progression of success.
- The roller hyper was added to the mix. This gave us a different way to
do hypers and added variety and sessions per week.
- The plyo swing was added, offering a way to build greater explosive
strength.
- Decline max effort work came and went, and then came back again.
- Belts squats were used more for spinal deloading.
- The tendo unit was added. However, it told us what we already knew so it
was only used sparely for testing. Having the device on made many lifters
too concerned with what the machine read and distracted them from actually
doing the lift. I was one of them.
- We were taught that we were only as strong as our weakest guy, and it
was our job to make him better. The exact words used were more like “stop
bitching about how weak he is and make him stronger. He’s weak because you
suck as a training partner.”
- Strapped up good mornings were a disaster.
- Although weight releasers were used sparely, they gave very good results
when used correctly.
- As the gym became more popular, the door was always open for coaches and
lifters. The entire time I was there, I met close to 100 coaches and only
saw three of them train or even try a movement. I met with even more lifters
and never saw any of them train.
- Louie pissed me off well over twice a week, and if I did my job, I
pissed him off more times per week than that.
- Louie would tell you the same damn thing 101 times and would finally
stop when I did it on the 101th time. This was really what I needed to do in
the first place, but I was too ego-driven to do what I sucked at. Some
coaches think they have a hard job. Try walking into Westside and teaching
those guys what to do! There’s only one way it will get done and that’s by
earning their respect “under the bar.”
- After 10 years, I finally got through one session without hearing AC/DC.
- Ultra high reps were added for recovery—reverse band presses for 100
reps.
- Timed good mornings (five minutes) were added for a short time. THESE
REALLY SUCKED.
- Timed dumbbell presses lasted longer.
- Just because they’re in the videos doesn’t mean we did rolling dumbbell
triceps extensions for eight sets of eight (20 seconds rest) twice a week
every week of the year.
- Doing 100 rep band push-downs with the light (purple) bands for extra
workouts twice a week makes a huge difference for many lifters.
- Floor presses with chains were added.
- The chain bench press was added (work up to 50% and add one chain per
set until you max out).
- The front squat harness broke and was never replaced. Squats and pulls
still went up, and our balls were saved.
- We discovered that you have a better chance of getting injured with
triples and fives then with singles.
- Dynamic squat (speed squat) training evolved to include other bars
outside of the straight bar. These included cambered squat bars and safety
squat bars.
- As with number 78, dynamic bench work also evolved to include cycles of
speed work on the floor, off low pins, and off boards.
- Bungee cords didn’t work as well as bands.
- The gear got better (bench shirts and squat suits) so training had to
change. The strength work didn’t change though because the program was
designed around getting stronger in and out of gear. However, the new gear
added a new skill aspect to the sport. We added in some sessions just to get
used to wearing the gear, but this didn’t happen more than 4–5 times for
each meet (at the most). This may have changed since I left the gym, but I
doubt it.
- More warm-up sets were added for each lift. You didn’t work up until you
were ready.
- More control on ME work was added. By this, I mean that smarter
decisions were made. In the past, we just said screw it and loaded the bar
whether or not it was a good day or a bad day. This is one thing that I feel
has helped the newer guys stay healthier than we were in the past.
- Toward the last few years, if we felt beat up, we rested and just did
supplemental work. This goes along with number 83.
- Most speed pulls advanced into speed pulls with one or two double mini
bands.
- In the beginning, all ME work for the lower body was done raw, and we
used to bust the balls of anyone who tried to use gear—even a belt. In time,
the belt and briefs were used, and we were healthier for it.
- Most people who think that they can last there never will, and those who
think they don’t belong will become one of the best. This will never change.
- All of us used to do the same max effort work regardless of what we
wanted to do. When the gym moved, we did those things that we needed to do
and not so much what everyone else was doing.
- Supplemental work became extremely important as time went on as we all
began to see what Louie had been telling us for years. As I like to say in
seminars, “You can either train a lift or build a lift. The choice is
yours.” Supplemental work builds lifts.
- Hamstring work is HUGE, but we never did RDL’s or stiff legs deadlifts.
Hams were built using glute ham raises, pull-thrus, band leg curls, squats,
and pulls.
- Supplemental work was waved based on individual needs. At first, we just
did what we did. In time, we stayed with one movement until it stalled and
then moved on. In many cases, we knew what we needed to do, but we weren’t
conditioned to do that movement yet. We would have to use “other” movements
to build up to the movement we really needed to do to build the lift. For
example, if I needed to do hanging leg raises so that my toes touched the
bar than I had a problem if I couldn’t do one. I would have to start with
other stuff such as pillars, knee up leg raises, and eccentric full leg
raises, and work up to full hanging leg raises. We used and created many
supplemental progressions like this. This same concept was also used with
many of the max effort movements but differently. In this case, we would
take what we were doing and what was working and find ways to progressively
make it more taxing and harder.
- From day one, every movement had a reason or it wasn’t done.
- As benches got bigger, upper back work got more important. In many
cases, it was done four times per week (dumbbell cleans, face pulls, and
seated high rows).
- What I call “coaches” were made at a faster rate. When I first got to
Westside, it took time to learn what was going on (how the training worked
and what technical flaws to look for). Louie would point things out to us
over and over again until we began to think and notice new things on our
own. We had a group of guys that trained together for a very long time, took
it all in, and looked very hard to help each other get better. Many weak
points were addressed and overcome. When new people were brought in, we
quickly showed them what to look for in us so they could help us get better.
In other words, as Louie has always said, “We knew what Westside could do
for them, but what would they do for Westside?”
- The learning curve got shorter as we became better teachers. Now when I
speak to Louie, I see that this curve is getting even shorter and faster.
What used to take a few years to do in both teaching and under the bar is
now being done within months.
- When I first got there, most (but not all) exercises were standard. They
became more specialized as needs changed.
- I’m very fortunate to have come to Westside when I did. Louie had
already suffered through so many injuries and mistakes. By the time I got
there, he had a hell of a lot figured out and had had two decades of
champions to back it up. I came in at a time where experimentation and
learning were at an all-time high (at least this is what I think—Louie was
doing it for years before I got there). He was getting the guys who were
willing to try more new stuff to get better. At the time, Louie wasn’t
training very hard, and I would venture to say that he was retired. Then one
day something was said to him—“Old man, you will never have 800 pounds on
your back again.” That day was a huge turning point for Louie’s training as
well as for the gym. In time, Louie starting kicking all our asses in the
gym (this is seen in many of the videos) and made a huge comeback. This gave
him instant respect with us. Before we had listened to what he said or did
what he told us to do, but now we actually SAW what he had been telling us.
- It’s a whole other ball game when you actually SEE what Louie says work
and all of a sudden you believe it will also work for you.
- With each move, the bathroom got better. (I’m stretching now to get to
100).
- The last place had a garage door making it easier to get more
equipment in.
I ripped the first 43 listed above off the top of my head before I left for
surgery. The rest were written while doped up on pain killers. Given some more
time and a sober state, I’m sure I could come up with a few hundred more.
However, it’s important to note that the training was always evolving. New
things were added and tried. Some stuff worked and some didn’t. The old stuff
was working for us the same way that it would work for you today, but things
only work for so long and you have to find new ways to advance. In many cases,
the old things are what advanced us to the new ones. They are what prepared us
for the new stuff.
Before Westside, I was lucky to make 4–5 changes to my training in a year. I
used the western method of periodization and progressive overload. I changed
what I could, but there were no checks and balances to work with as there are
with Westside training. I didn’t have max effort work to gauge my progress or
videos to show me how my bar speed was looking. My focuses were simply on making
everything stronger and bringing up my weak points. Training is more complicated
then many make it out to be, but it’s still simpler than most think. The key is
to understand the methods and use them to the best of your ability. These
methods have been covered in just about every article ever written on Westside,
but reading and seeing are two entirely different things.
The best way to learn Westside is to train at Westside under Louie and the
rest of the team. Louie is the greatest “results-oriented” strength person I’ve
ever met. I’ve known the man for close to 20 years now, and I’m still impressed
with the things that he says and the concepts and solutions he comes up with.
I’ve also seen how messed up people get from trying to figure this all out from
articles. Technique can’t be learned from written words. You have to see it and
do it over and over again. The articles are great and the seminars are better.
But the seminars don’t happen often and will never be held in every state. This
leaves the videos.
While I’ve seen people succeed greatly from the seminar video I did titled
“The Westside Seminar”
I still firmly believe that if you’re serious about coaching strength or getting
strong, you should own every single one of Louie’s DVDs. I’ve never met one
person who didn’t get better from using the material contained in them. There
are live workouts on each DVD so you can see exactly what we were doing and how
we did it. Louie takes the time to explain the methods being used and why we
used them. The next question you may have is what DVDs are the best? This is
simple. All of them! Pick any one and start with it or get them all at once. I’m
telling you—these are all an asset to your training.
Here are Louie’s DVDs:
Westside Barbell Reactive Method DVD
Westside Barbell Bench Press Workout DVD
Westside Barbell Deadlift Secrets DVD
Westside Barbell Special Strengths DVD
Westside Barbell Squat Workout DVD
Westside Vogelpohl XXX
Westside Seminar DVD
Let me leave you with this...
The success seen at Westside is unparalleled.
Let the numbers tell the truth. When I got to Westside, there were close to
30 elite lifters. Now there are 66. This is growth and evolution PROVEN. When I
came to Westside, the goal was to get as many 800 lb squatters and 500 lb
benchers developed as we could. But that was then, and this is now.
Now read
this.
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