This statement never goes away...
ever.
It's amazing to me.
It's absolutely amazing to me because I have read and heard people over the years say, "Don't do this program." Let's say Program X, "Don't do Program X, because Program X is only made for people who take steroids."
Then, ten years later, there's Program Y, "Don't do Program Y, because that's only made for people who are on steroids. If you're drug free, you need to do Program X."
What the fuck is that about?
I have yet to see a program designed that says...
"This program is designed for people on steroids."
I've never seen it. It's amazing to me, because when you look at the strength industry, as a whole, you're looking at the forest instead of the tree.
The majority of all lifters are natural, so if there is a program that bubbles to to top as being a popular program, or a successful program, the only way it bubbled to the top of the forest, is because it worked.
There's not enough people taking steroids to bubble a program to the top of the forest. I don't see how people miss that.
Do people actually think that everybody who lifts weights takes steroids?
That's ludicrous. It's insane to even think about. Just use some common sense and think about this for a little bit.
It wouldn't be a popular program if it only worked for steroids or with people who took steroids. It's crazy to me. I'm always speechless when I hear stuff like this.
It's one guy's way to try to justify that their program's going to work better than somebody else's program.
It's easier to say the only reason "so and so's program" is better is because those who use it are all on drugs than it is to promote the benefits on their own program. It's always easier to tear somebody else down than it is to build your own results.
What works and what's popular is always going to be what bubbles up to the top, steroids or not.
If people (real people not the only being paid, trained for free, or the creator of the program) are saying a program really works than it's safe to assume it's helping drug free lifters.
If any changes need to be made - it will not need to be to make it a "drug free" program. Changes may need to be made if someone is "on" but the real changes will need to be made based on each individual's needs analysis.
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The reason why some programs become and stay popular is that popular people who take steroids make them famous. Just like in bodybuilding. Then fanboys preach their limited knowledge to noobs and the programs become infailible. Sorry Dave but you're more than wrong here, your putting forth your own myth.